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		<title>Još uvijek Keynes vs. Hayek</title>
		<link>http://cronomy.org/2010/07/23/jos-uvijek-keynes-vs-hayek/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Duel Keynesa i Hayeka &#8211; koji je bio akademske prirode, a osobno su bili u prijaznim, prijateljskim odnosima &#8211; ovih dana doživljava reprizu, iako vjerojatno nije krivo reći da debata nikad nije ni prestala. Nedavno, dva nova pisma iz 1932, dakle prije Generalne Teorije,  dvije grupe ekonomista predvođene Keynesom i Hayekom argumentiraju dvije ekonomske politike [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cronomy.org&#038;blog=994071&#038;post=1672&#038;subd=cronomy&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana;">Duel Keynesa i Hayeka &#8211; koji je bio akademske prirode, a osobno su bili u prijaznim, prijateljskim odnosima &#8211; ovih dana doživljava reprizu, iako vjerojatno nije krivo reći da debata nikad nije ni prestala. Nedavno, dva nova pisma iz 1932, dakle prije <em>Generalne Teorije</em>,  dvije grupe ekonomista predvođene Keynesom i Hayekom argumentiraju dvije ekonomske politike koje će izvući Veliku Britaniju iz Depresije. Ovo  je Hayek-ekonomist poslovnog ciklusa iz &#8217;30tih i koji preispituje  makroekonomiju kao način ekonomskog razmišljanja, ne Hayek-filozof  političke ekonomije nakon WWII.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana;"><a href="http://thinkmarkets.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/keynes-hayek-1932-cambridgelse.pdf">Link na dva pisam u pdf formatu</a>, via Mario Rizzo <a href="http://thinkmarkets.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/keynes-versus-hayek-past-is-prologue/#more-3522">blog</a>. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana;"><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704738404575347300609199056.html">Sažetak pisama u WSJ</a>.<br />
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<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana;"><a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/09/keynes-versus-hayek-1932/?src=twt&amp;twt=NytimesKrugman">Krugman sa svojim tipičnim opterećenim govorom</a> i snažnim mišljenjima. (<a href="http://thinkmarkets.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/still-hearing-defunct-economists-in-the-air-krugmans-misplaced-attack-on-hayek/">I odgovor</a> otkrivača pisama.)<br />
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<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana;">Naravno, ovaj level debate je skoro pa nepoznat i nepostojeći u hrvatskim medijima, pa čak i u Hrvatskom političkim, akademskim krugovima. Ako se negdje nešto slično i raspravlja, iza zatvorenih akademskih vrata, isto kao da se i ne raspravlja, jer javnost mora znati i čuti. Okvira nema, argumenta je malo, nabijene riječi bez značaja. Vladina ekonomska politika je reakcionarna. Ponekad mi se čini da je level ekonomskog dijaloga u Hrvatskoj na razini ovog stripa. Mislim da je <a href="http://blog.vecernji.hr/zvonimir-despot/2010/07/14/kome-netrebaju-doktori-znanosti/">Zvonimir Despot u pravu</a>. </span></p>
<p><em>P</em><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana;"><a href="http://cronomy.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/pricklycityhayekkeynes.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1676 alignleft" title="PricklyCityHayekKeynes" src="http://cronomy.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/pricklycityhayekkeynes.jpg?w=200&h=80" alt="" width="200" height="80" /></a></span><em>osebice je kritično stanje za humanističke i društvene znanosti u  Hrvatskoj. &#8230; U društvenim i humanističkim znanostima krajnje smo autistični i  samodovoljni. Uostalom, zato nam i jest ovakvo društvo i društveno  ozračje &#8211; i/ili zaostalo i antiintelektualno desno i/ili retrogradno i  anacionalno lijevo.</em></p>
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		<title>Ekon Rap</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Video koji se širi ekonomskom profesijom poput virusa. Rap (ili hip hop, ne znam razliku) verzija Keynesovog i Hayekovog prikaza poslovnog ciklusa. Ako ga niste još vidjeli. Više ovdje. Filed under: Država, Ekonomska Politika, FA Hayek, Fiskalna, JM Keynes, Kamate<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cronomy.org&#038;blog=994071&#038;post=1589&#038;subd=cronomy&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana;">Video koji se širi ekonomskom profesijom poput virusa. Rap (ili hip hop, ne znam razliku) verzija Keynesovog i Hayekovog prikaza poslovnog ciklusa. Ako ga niste još vidjeli. Više <a href="http://www.econstories.tv/reactions.html">ovdje.</a><br />
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		<title>Hayek intervju</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poduži intervju iz 1985. sa lucidnim 86 godišnjakom Friedrich A. Hayek-om. Postano uAustrian, Ekonomska Povijest, Ekonomska Sloboda, FA Hayek<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cronomy.org&#038;blog=994071&#038;post=1265&#038;subd=cronomy&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;">Poduži intervju </span><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;">iz 1985.</span><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;"> sa lucidnim 86 godišnjakom Friedrich A. Hayek-om.</span></p>
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		<title>Prenesen komentar</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Na brzinu preneseno. Kratko sam komentirao na pollitika.com jedan post u vezi Keynesa. Iako je cijeli post zanimljiv, previše je paušalnosti. Već u drugom paragrafu potpuno se pogrešno predstavlja nekakav Keynes-Smith konflikt tako da Smithu pripisuješ nekakve ideje koje nemaju veza sa njim. Adam Smith nema nikakve veze sa slobodnim tržištem, o tome nije pisao. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cronomy.org&#038;blog=994071&#038;post=1169&#038;subd=cronomy&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Verdana;">Na brzinu preneseno. Kratko sam komentirao na pollitika.com <a href="http://pollitika.com/keynes-u-21-stoljecu-we-are-all-keynesians-now-again">jedan post u vezi Keynesa</a>.</span></p>
<p>Iako je cijeli post zanimljiv, previše je paušalnosti. Već u drugom paragrafu potpuno se pogrešno predstavlja nekakav Keynes-Smith konflikt tako da Smithu pripisuješ nekakve ideje koje nemaju veza sa njim. Adam Smith nema nikakve veze sa slobodnim tržištem, o tome nije pisao. Ljudi, među kojima i naši ekonomisti za ideološke potrebe, često uspoređuju nevidljivu ruku i slobodno tržište iako to nema veze jedno sa drugim niti je Smith tako razmišljao. Smith nema nikakve veze sa punom zaposlenošću ili nekakvom analizom agregatne potražnje &#8211; općenito ideja makroekonomije zaposlenosti Keynesa ili nekog modernog ekonomista je bila nepoznata Smithu. Adam Smith isto nema nikakve veze sa &#8220;laissez faire&#8221;. Za njega to nije bilo relevantno i nije se držao te politike, tako da stavljanje &#8220;čuvene Smithove&#8221; ispred je pogrešno. Nema veze sa njim. Cijeli taj dio je brkanje naranča i banana.<br />
Pošto je FDR umro 1945. uzeti ću kao &#8220;mali&#8221; tipo da je *on* osnovao Council of Econ. Advisers 1946. (CEA je osnovan &#8217;46.)<br />
Usporedno sa trabunjanjem oko Smitha, dijelovi oko Keynesa su bolji i korektniji. Mnogi koji ne znaju zašto su Hayek i pogotovo Friedman dobili nobelove će možda pitati. Koji znaju neće jer znaju da nema veze sa pojednostavljenim, paušalnim ideologijama koje se često prezentiraju po medijima. Asocijacije na Chicago boys, USSR i neke druge zemlje su i više nego slobodno interpretiranje povijesti. Ali dobro. Ne, nije došlo do potpunog zaborava Keynesa. Keynesova ekonomija nikada nije izgubila na relevantnosti koliko je izgubila utjecaja koji se sada vraća zbog situacije u svijetu. A izgubila je utjecaja zbog njenog iskorištavanja za neke pseudo-socijalističke svrhe i maltretiranja preko onoga za što je namjenjena. Keynesova teorija ima i neke greške koje su se pokušale ispraviti. Mehanizmi kojima država može/mora utjecati na ekonomiju su namjenjeni njenoj stabilizaciji u posebnim slučajevima &#8211; poput u slučaju Velike Depresije i pogotovo kad je monetarna politika izgubila utjecaj na potražnju &#8211; kao što je to danas u nekim zemljama. Plan G onda stupa na scenu. Svako širenje opsega tih državnih/fiskalnih mehanizama na nekakav razvoj i državnu intervenciju i mješanje u ekonomsku aktivnost u svako doba je natezanje i donjeti će više štete nego koristi.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof. William Easterly o Hayekovom ključu i uvidu o ekonomskom razvoju. Vjerojatno subjektivno pitanje ali, ima li danas bolje kombinacije?</p>
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<p>Economic success-among individuals, firms, products and countries-is often unexpected and unpredicted. William Easterly will draw on insights from Nobel laureate Friedrich Hayek to explain why prediction is difficult, success is rare and failure is common; the advantages of decentralized decision making to discover what works best in the market and in public policy; and the need to rely on dispersed and local knowledge, rather than government planning, for poor countries to achieve growth.</p>
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